Monday, September 10, 2007
Gareth Porter: War Against Iran and the Logic of Dominance - Politics on The Huffington Post
Really genius? So you mean to tell me that other nations like Turkey, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia who are concerned with Iran's nuclear program only want the US to be the only global superpower? Go on, I'm all ears.
In other words, Iran could not be allowed to have even the option of a nuclear weapon capability, because the United States had to be able to operate with a completely free hand militarily in the region.
Umm....have you even READ the non proliferation nuclear treaty that Iran SIGNED??
What Donnelly did not say, but which follows from that posture, is that even a non-nuclear Iran that has links to strong allies such as Hezbollah and Hamas, could not be allowed to be a regional power.
So I guess you're ok with a nation with nuclear weapons intentions to have ties to known terrorist organizations? Are you ok with Russia having ties to Al-Qaeda? What about China and the IRA? You still ok with that?
Finally, the Bush administration refused to tolerate any real negotiations by the Europeans with Iran over its uranium enrichment program in 2004-2005, even though those negotiations could have resulted in an agreement that would limited Iran to a level of uranium enrichment that would have only a small fraction of what is required for the production of a nuclear weapon. In March 2005, Iran proposed to its European negotiating partners to submit to a system of their devising to guarantee against enrichment that could support a nuclear weapons through an inspection system. But under U.S. pressure the Europeans refused even to discuss it.
So you're ok with them taking just a bit longer to make a nuclear weapon?? Is that like Timothy McVeigh gathering up bomb components over the course of 20 years instead of 3? That sounds like what you're saying to me.
We pressured the Europeans because they have a vast history of appeasement against threats and they needed to be reminded of the threat that we all face.
The administration's argument against such an agreement was that there was a secret enrichment program paralleling the acknowledge program that would fall under international inspection. But as Sy Hersh reported last November , after years of trying, the CIA still had found "no conclusive evidence" a such a secret Iranian nuclear-weapons program running parallel to the one being monitored by the International Atomic Energy Agency. In fact the still classified National Intelligence Estimate on Iran's nuclear program in mid-2005 concluded that no final Iranian decision had been made to pursue the manufacture of a nuclear weapon.
Well according to the IAEA, Iran got themselves a hold of nuclear weapons documents.
Still ok with them getting a hold of a nuclear weapon?
The implication of the general acceptance of the threat of war against Iran as instrument of policy is that neither the "moderates" inside the administration nor the Democrats will be in a position to offer effective resistance to actual war against Iran before it is too late. Unless someone begins to push back soon, the distorted logic of dominance may carry this nation into an irrational and criminal war whose consequences for us and for the world would be the gravest imaginable.
So you're ok with a nation with nuclear weapons intentions, with known terrorist group ties, with knowingly fighting a proxy war against the US in Iraq? You're ok about doing NOTHING about it? You're ok that their President has made numerous threats about genocide against Israel?
Well, going by your logic, you wouldn't mind if your neighbor just started shooting at you. You wouldn't mind if he invited over a few skinheads to have a "peaceful" rally in his front yard. Hell, you wouldn't even mind if he out and out said he'd want to flatten your home, with you inside it. Now of course, no one is actually calling for Gareth's neighbor to engage in violence against him, but once it effects you personally, views change.
Now that I've made the virtual situation more personal, Gareth, are you still ok with it?
I feel that way about ALL American lives, not just my own. When I see a threat, I want that threat eliminated. When I see people who are dismissive about it and call names, I need to point out their idiocy, including your own.
Travis
Labels: Huffington Post, idiocy, iran
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